But I grew up in the 70s when feminism was still a thing.

As I said, I think involving the families is nice. I think treating women as objects to be given by one man to another man is not nice.

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Where are you now?

Even some of my friends’ fathers found it a bit daft. I remember one of them saying, ”He didn’t ask my permission to shack up with her, why’s he asking now?”

I just don’t understand it.

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I used to open the door, pick him up from the crate and put him straight outside. Sounds as if you’re all doing well!

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I don’t mind involving families. Does the bride do something similar with the groom’s mother? It’s fine if it does, but two men discussing transfer of ownership of a woman doesn’t do it for me.

I wouldn’t do a wedding service where the bride is handed over like a belonging either. I think there could be something nice about moving to a new family, but it would involve both spouses and all parents, not one man giving a woman to another man.

Maybe it’s different in Japan. I would not have married someone who thought I wasn’t up to deciding for myself.

Sort of drifting that way. I recently went more than a week between posts there, even though Cauldron was open on my desktop the whole time, jus because there was nothing I felt drawn to join in with.

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Not that I disagree about Trump, but asking permission to marry a daughter? Isn’t that a tad 19th century?